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Character discussion : This Week 'Blaster'

Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:10 pm

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Furmans weakest moment?
Or maybe just because he was toned down from Buds role he was more in context?

Beating old stratux his greatest moment?

is soundwave his brother? (hang me)
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Post by Autobloke » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:37 pm

Comic: Moody, looked like Robocop when drawn with visor.
Cartoon: Like cartoon Jazz, but on some kind of happy drug.

Soundwave's brother? What with all his rhyming-speak in the cartoon, surely Blaster is Wheelie's brother (shudder).
Perhaps Soundwave, Jazz, Wheelie (and Robocop) are ALL related.
Personally, I liked Blaster - even though his toy was nowhere near as good as Soundwave.

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:04 pm

what about blasters moment as a leader ppl?
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Post by Autobloke » Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:08 pm

He never struck me as the leader type. There was no way he'd have beaten Grimlock if the moon battle hadn't been interrupted. That said, he's red, which is the colour to be if you might be replacing Prime (eases confusion amongst the troops).

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Post by Optimus Prime Rib » Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:11 am

Best moment: desperately trying to save Scrounge
Worst Moment: being in the cartoon

I also like the way Blaster was always quick to jump to conclusions. like with Goldbug (or was he Bumblebee during the scraplet fiasco, cant exactly remember).

Seemed like he would be a competent field commander, like Magnus or Impactor, but not as overall leader of the Autobots.
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Post by The Last Autobot » Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:23 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote: I also like the way Blaster was always quick to jump to conclusions. like with Goldbug (or was he Bumblebee during the scraplet fiasco, cant exactly remember).

Seemed like he would be a competent field commander, like Magnus or Impactor, but not as overall leader of the Autobots.
Goldbug.

Blaster was a "Wolverine" type loner in budiansky issues. He was a very decent fighter and I would put him in the same league of Grimlock (just in that issues, later, Furman Grim would rip him like trash). Later, although his appearance was very downgraded we can still see a few details of his importance in some incidents like being one of the only survivors in Klo, or the meetings before their escape of Cybertron.

Best Moment: Straxus, his rebellion against Grimlock

Worst Moment: Being deactivated and out of the picture for so much time?
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Post by Stormwolf » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:47 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:Worst Moment: being in the cartoon
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Post by fort_max » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:59 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:Worst Moment: being in the cartoon
Can't that be said of just about every character, though? I mean, was there really a single character that made you want to say, "Ya know, I really like the way he was handled in the cartoon"?

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Post by Stormwolf » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:41 am

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Optimus Prime Rib wrote:Worst Moment: being in the cartoon
Can't that be said of just about every character, though? I mean, was there really a single character that made you want to say, "Ya know, I really like the way he was handled in the cartoon"?
Grimlock, damm, what a complex personality :roll:
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Post by spiderfrommars » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:17 am

I quite enjoy Blaster in the movie - a bit of a guilty pleasure. "Whats shaking, other than this fortress?" etc. Even if he vanishes half way though.

Obviously Budiansky did the best job. Blaster's presence even elevated the likes of Club Con (though not Used Autobots). The Smelting Pool and Scraplet sagas were some of Bob's best. And Blaster was one of the only characters I was gutted to see die in the Underbase saga.

It was a treat to see him again in the later issues, but it wasn't quite the same.

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Post by Metal Vendetta » Tue Mar 29, 2005 10:47 am

I've talked about Blaster on here before, the idea that he was a kind of superhero within the Autobot ranks. When he wears his vizor, he's tough decisive and everyone likes him (except possibly Grimlock). As soon as he retracts the vizor, he's just the gimpy communications officer and everyone ignores him. It's possible that the other Autobots don't even know it's the same 'bot, just look at Bumblebee/Goldbug. With the vizor, Goldbug left the Autobots and risked his life for Blaster. Afterwards, Bumblebee doesn't even give him the time of day. And Blaster's reduced to calling everyone "dudes" to try and sound cool.

Basically, Blaster + vizor = teh roXx0rz.

Blaster - vizor = teh suXx0rz.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:55 am

Metal Vendetta wrote:And Blaster's reduced to calling everyone "dudes" to try and sound cool.
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Post by Brendocon » Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:00 pm

I hate Blaster. Seriously. All versions of him.

Never really warmed to the comic version... yeah, I can see why people like him and all, but he never did a damn thing for me. It's a bit like Batman, yeah he's a bit of a hardcase renegade no rules whatever blah blah authority shut up Grimlock kinda guy... but really I never connected with him for that or anything else.

Cartoon incarnation can go to hell.

I realise I am alone on this, but I dislike him intensely. Though nowhere near as intensely as Fangry, who spent god knows how many issues skulking about being everybody's bitch before suddenly declaring that he takes orders from nobody and acting as if he had some form of reputation for it. Damn well deserved a fist through the chest.
Grrr. Argh.

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Post by Bouncelot » Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:17 pm

fort_max wrote:
Optimus Prime Rib wrote:Worst Moment: being in the cartoon
Can't that be said of just about every character, though? I mean, was there really a single character that made you want to say, "Ya know, I really like the way he was handled in the cartoon"?
There were some characters who got characterisation in the cartoon but not the comic. Can't think who off the top of my head, though.

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Post by Brendocon » Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:18 pm

Bouncelot wrote:There were some characters who got characterisation in the cartoon but not the comic. Can't think who off the top of my head, though.
Seaspray! Powerglide! Beachcomber! Warpath!

Okay... yeah, I'll stop now...
Grrr. Argh.

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Post by Stormwolf » Tue Mar 29, 2005 1:23 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Bouncelot wrote:There were some characters who got characterisation in the cartoon but not the comic. Can't think who off the top of my head, though.
Seaspray! Powerglide! Beachcomber! Warpath!

Okay... yeah, I'll stop now...
Hey, you forgot Wheelie......
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Post by Autobloke » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:06 pm

Omega Supreme got some backstory in the show

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Post by ShadowSonic » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:14 pm

Cyclonus and Scourge were more likable in the cartoon, Sandstorm got a backstory in the cartoon, Skyfire got a backstory, The Combaticons and Stunticons.

Those are the only ones I can think of.

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Post by Autobloke » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:22 pm

Skyfire (read: Jetfire) had a far more compelling backstory in the comic though. I think it's more a matter of opinion as to what counts as a good bit of character development. Just getting a memorable line in the show could count. The comics let you hear the TFs thoughts as well though.

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Post by Hound » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:55 pm

I think Brawn is one of the few characters who comes off better in the cartoon. He is gutsy and afraid of nothing.
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Post by Autobloke » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:03 pm

He's funny too. AND he got to blast Megatron with his own Fusion Cannon - comic Brawn would have NEVER got the chance to do that.

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:45 pm

ShadowSonic wrote:Cyclonus and Scourge were more likable in the cartoon.
Ha!

Cyc in the cartoon was a genric Lt gimp who got beaten up by Galvy every single week, never developed past that because the cartoon didnt have a time line.
Scourge, what was he? a non-consistent character.

Im sorry but in the comic they are far superior, they start as they should, Galvatrons Lt's then develop into indviduals thanks to writting, have some brillant moments between them with self bickering and such.

Bah theres no comparison.

Backstory in the cartoon was only shown as it was a 'new character' this week. which was because there was a new toy, so they made them seem cool for 20mins. then in jetfires case stuck him on Ice. what tosh.

The comic allowed characters to develop over time due to its format.
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Post by Stormwolf » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:49 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote: Cyc in the cartoon was a genric Lt gimp .
Pretty logical now that you mention it:

Galvatron = Zed
Cyclonus = The Gimp
Scourge = The store owner (both even have beards!)

I'll shut up now.......................
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:50 pm

Stormwolf wrote:
Impactor returns 2.0 wrote: Cyc in the cartoon was a genric Lt gimp .
Pretty logical now that you mention it:

Galvatron = Zed
Cyclonus = The Gimp
Scourge = The store owner (both even have beards!)

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Post by Metal Vendetta » Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:00 am

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61.     INT. DECEPTICON HQ, CHARR - DAY                              61.

        TWO SHOT - SPRINGER AND RODIMUS
        are tied up in two separate chairs.  In their mouths are two
        S&M-style ball gags (a belt goes around their heads and a
        little red ball sticks in their mouths).  Both robots are
        offline.  Scourge steps in with a fire extinguisher and
        SPRAYS both bots until they're wide awake and wet as otters.
        The two prisoners look up at their captor.

        Scourge stands in front of them, fire extinguisher in one
        hand, gun in the other, and Rodimus' blaster sticking in his
        belt.

                                  SCOURGE
                       Nobody kills anybody in my place of
                       business except me or Galvatron.

        A BUZZER buzzes.

                                  SCOURGE
                       That's Galvatron.

        Without saying another word, Scourge climbs up the stairs that
        lead to red curtains and goes through them.

        WE HEAR, on the other side of the curtains, Scourge let Galvatron
        inside Decepticon HQ.

        Springer and Rodimus look around the room.  The basement of the
        HQ has been converted into a dungeon.  After taking in
        their predicament, Springer and Rodimus look at each other, all
        traces of hostility gone, replaced by a terror they both share
        at what they've gotten themselves into.

        Scourge and GALVATRON come through the curtains.  Galvatron is an even
        more intense version of Scourge, if such a thing is possible.
        The two Decepticons are obviously Unicron-spawn.  Where Scourge is a
        vicious pitbull, Galvatron is a deadly cobra.  Galvatron walks in and
        stands in front of the two captives.  He inspects them for a
        long time, then says:

                                  GALVATRON
                            (to Scourge)
                       You said you waited for me?

                                  SCOURGE
                       I did.

                                  GALVATRON
                       Then how come they're all beat up?

                                  SCOURGE
                       They did that to each other.  They
                       was fightin' when they came in.
                       This one was gonna shoot that one.

                                  GALVATRON
                            (to Springer)
                       You were gonna shoot him?

        Springer makes no reply.

                                  GALVATRON
                       Hey, is the Nemesis II gonna be okay in
                       front of this place?

                                  SCOURGE
                       Yeah, it ain't Tuesday is it?

                                  GALVATRON
                       No, it's Thursday.

                                  SCOURGE
                       Then she'll be fine.

                                  GALVATRON
                       Bring out Cyclonus.

                                  SCOURGE
                       I think Cylclonus is asleep.

                                  GALVATRON
                       Well, I guess you'll just wake 'em
                       up then, won't you?

        Scourge opens a trap door in the floor.

                                  SCOURGE
                            (yelling in the hole)
                       Wake up!

        Scourge reaches into the hole and comes back holding onto a
        leash.  He gives it a rough yank and, from below the floor,
        rises CYCLONUS.
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:20 am

my god! it keeps getting better!
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Post by ShadowSonic » Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:45 am

Sigh, comic Nazis, we'll never have peace shall we?

Cyclonus in the cartoon was an honorable, respectable, loyal character and is the kind of Decepticon Soundwave could only dream to be. Cyclonus in the comic was an arrogant thug who didnt' amuse me or interest me the least, and I loved the comics. I didn't give a damn when he got decapitated.

Cartoon did some stuff better, get over it and accept the comic had some failings, not as many as the cartoon but yes they were there.

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Post by Yaya » Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:50 am

Fantastic character in the comic (fashioned by Budiansky).

Greatest Moment: I remember as a young teenager how enthralled I was, at the edge of my seat, reading that battle between him and that maniac Straxus. That was one of the highlights, not just of Blaster's history, not just of TF comic history, but in Transformers history period. And by the time this battle ensued, Budiansky marvelously had already developed Blaster in a single issue in his adventure with Scrounge. So it wasn't just Blasters best moment, those two issues were also some of Budiansky's best as well.

Worst Moment: Battling Grimlock on that moon. That was a low point for all Autobots. You mean to tell me that without Prime, everything breaks down into an all out rumble? A scene more fitting for Megs and Shockers, not of Autobot leader candidates.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:25 am

Cyclonus was probably my favourite Season 3 cartoon character.

However...
ShadowSonic wrote:I didn't give a damn when he got decapitated.
Easy to say in retrospect. At the time, 188 issues into the UK comic, it came as a massive shock.

A classic scene.

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Post by Best First » Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:57 am

Metal Vendetta wrote:I've talked about Blaster on here before, the idea that he was a kind of superhero within the Autobot ranks. When he wears his vizor, he's tough decisive and everyone likes him (except possibly Grimlock). As soon as he retracts the vizor, he's just the gimpy communications officer and everyone ignores him. It's possible that the other Autobots don't even know it's the same 'bot, just look at Bumblebee/Goldbug. With the vizor, Goldbug left the Autobots and risked his life for Blaster. Afterwards, Bumblebee doesn't even give him the time of day. And Blaster's reduced to calling everyone "dudes" to try and sound cool.

Basically, Blaster + vizor = teh roXx0rz.

Blaster - vizor = teh suXx0rz.
"I'm telling you, they are the same guy"

"But how would he see?"

Furman really sropped the ball with Blaster IMO. Bob Gave Blaster an air that he could have just about anyone - almsot Batman crossed with Wolverine.

I don't hold out much hope for teh WW version as DW have allready tainted him with teh cartoon in G1 Vol 2. Gah.
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