Thor Deux

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Thor Deux

Post by Brendocon » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:34 pm

Spoilers:
ZOMG they've made the Cosmic Cube one of the Infinity Gems that's actually sort of genius ZOMG
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by bumblemusprime » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:01 am

Rrg. Can't see this for another week. Hear it's better than Thor Un.
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Ozz » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:01 am

Just to be sure: it has a scene in the middle of the credits, and then one after credits, too? And the last one is actually, let's call it important, not Avengers sitting in silence for 30 seconds and hiding facial hair? :)
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Brendocon » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:40 am

There are indeed two credits scenes.

The first one is at the midpoint of the credits - after the flashy montage animated type credits sequence (before the rolling text) and is a set-up for future films.

There is then a coda after the credits, which you're probably not going to be too upset about if you miss.

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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Best First » Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:23 pm

Yes - the last one could basically be summarised as an expensive cgi version of "Grr. Argh".

I enjoyed it - slightly ploddy in places but overall good fun and the closing fight scenes basically showed Man of Steel how it should have been done - and agree about the spoliery thing above being clever. Although also thought that bit looked rather like they had accidentally wandered onto the set of Dr Who.

Seems like most stuff at the moment is setting up GoG rather than Avengers 2, altho i suspect Winter Soldier may do more of that.

On that note, the other cameo in this was fantastic. I like it when they have fun with things like that, just because, you know, they can.
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Brendocon » Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:26 pm

Yeah, that great big plastic thing-in-a-tank in the middle of the screen wasn't really thought through was it? Looked like a dead Vogon.

Or maybe that's the look they're going for.

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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Best First » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:54 am

Brendocon wrote:Yeah, that great big plastic thing-in-a-tank in the middle of the screen wasn't really thought through was it?
Not so much thought through as borrowed from 1983 i'd say.
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Brendocon » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:49 pm

I like the way they've shuffled the Infinity colours around so that we wouldn't guess it straight away (I'm giving the benefit of the doubt here and guessing that's what they've done).

Tesseract is blatantly the Space Gem

Assuming that the Aether is the Reality Gem, given Ecclescake wanted to use it to reshape the realms to his wishes?

"Hey, let's give one of six really powerful artifacts to a guy who's actually called The Collector and then tell him where he can get a second. How could that go wrong?" Oh, King Loki, you really are a scamp.

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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Ozz » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:59 pm

I think Malekith didn't want to reshape the nine worlds, but simply destroy them. Therefore Aether could as well be Power "Gem". And I don't really know what the Space one should do, but IIRC Red Skull used Tesseract as a battery of sorts to power HYDRA gear, and Loki to power the portal, so maybe in the movies they're just six powerful devices/weapons that have no specific designations like Space, Time, Power, etc? Although I'd prefer that's not the case, because it seems less interesting.
On general, I think I liked the first one better, however this one's final fight was much more fun.
Boo for Warriors Three and Sif getting the short end of the stick screentime-wise (they were in it even less than in the first one?).
I sure wish 2 Broke Girls didn't suck. I'd love to have a weekly dose of Kat Dennings, but not like that.

Spoilers for Agents if you didn't read the synopsis for upcoming episodes:
I would LOVE if "cleaning after the events of Thor: The Dark World" would involve capturing that Jotunheim creature that stayed behind in London, but that probably won't happen. :)

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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Brendocon » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:44 pm

I'd need to rewatch Captain America, but didn't the Tesseract-fueled Hydra weapons cause stuff to vanish? Which could back up its spacey role.

Of course it could just be a case of "it's the space gem, but because it's the space gem it's also a really powerful source of energy".

Or it could be that they're just making this **** up as they go and there were just some handy dots to connect. Which is totally unlike anything Joss would ever produce.

Wasn't Malekeith's plan to return the Nine Realms to "Darkness" or whatever the vague portentious stuff was? There's a case for it to be the Power gem, definitely. Though I think Reality makes a bit more sense.

Or, as you say, they could all just be their own new and unique wacky artifacts
But yeah, anyway. Warriors Three. That was weird. "Yeah, mate, appreciate your service and all, but you can just stay on this world because apparently it's your home or something despite that not really tracking. Because there's not room in the script or the actor couldn't be bothered or something, but at least it means you'll be in shot so we'll recognise this as one of the nine realms during the big fight scene later on."

Also, Malekeith not realising Portman was an illusion was odd. Being as he seemed to know she'd got the Aether from being able to sense it, but he couldn't sense that it wasn't actually her. Weirdy.

Yeah, I'm only doing spoiler tags for the post-credits stuff now.

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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Best First » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:52 pm

On that note good knife fighting skills from Rene Russo.

On a less enthusiastic note i hope Ecclestone's new kitchen is nice.
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by bumblemusprime » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:30 am

I finally saw this.

This is the perfect movie. We begin with the opening of Lord of the Rings, move to a Star Wars fighter sequence, end with cheesy Whovian aliens running around London chasing the young, hip, hot companions, and insert lots of quasi-Shakespearian grandstanding.

Perfect movie.
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Professor Smooth » Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:09 pm

This just opened in Japan last last week. I'm torn. I can go and watch it in all its cinematic glory...or I can wait a few weeks and pick up the 3D Blue Ray and get the sure-to-be-awesome new Mandarin short.
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Ozz » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:32 am

On a Thor-related topic, I'm glad Sif gets more screen-time even if it's not in the movies. I still feel she's wasted and should have bigger role.

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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Professor Smooth » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:37 am

Bit the bullet and went to see this. It was fun. Not as many "wait, what?" moments as in Iron Man 2. Probably the funniest Stan Lee cameo, imo. The "other" cameo was ****ing, fall-out-of-my-seat-laughing, awesome. Did I miss something with Selvig, though? When did he loose his marbles?

I'd heard that the first after credits scene was a major tonal shift from the film. But, I still wasn't prepared for just how out of place it looked.
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Ozz » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:48 am

Professor Smooth wrote:Did I miss something with Selvig, though? When did he loose his marbles?
He wasn't quite himself yet after Loki mindcontrolled him for the majority of The Avengers.

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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Obfleur » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:18 pm

I saw the movie a while ago, and I've forgotten about 70% of the movie. What's this cameo everyone's talking about? I can't remember :(
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Professor Smooth » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:12 pm

Obfleur wrote:I saw the movie a while ago, and I've forgotten about 70% of the movie. What's this cameo everyone's talking about? I can't remember :(
The one that involves Loki.
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Re: Thor Deux

Post by Obfleur » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:48 am

Ooooohhh... now I remember! :)
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